Ian/Barbara I can totally see, they were completely married. Five/Nyssa I have no opinion on, as I'm not up to it, though I generally ship Doctor/everyone, so I'm preemptively on board. Jamie/Victoria I can certainly see, though I actually like it better if it's Jamie/Victoria/Doctor, in no particular order. (Okay, so one of those Amy/Rory fics was actually Amy/Rory/Doctor, sue me.) But I think I was over-hyped for Liz/Brig, or something. I watched Liz's entire season, and I just do not see it. They had no chemistry! Hardly any interaction! I shipped them both with the Doctor, though.
I do get what you mean about fandom being, well, fangirly, and I know that 90% of it is crap, as per Sturgeon's Law, but I kind of....object to that, nonetheless, because women's writing is often ghettoized and dismissed for being women's writing. Even when the writing of some women is legitimized, it's because she beat men at their own game, not because her own game was in any way legitimate. What I love so much about fandom is that it is pretty much female-dominated, and is a female culture. Even when I shake my head at how utterly shitty a lot of fanfiction is, I kind of love it, too, because it's shitty in a very feminine way, and it isn't being stigmatized for that, it's being celebrated, the way we've celebrated masculine shite for god knows how long.
So when I see women's fiction, fanfiction, being dismissed or mocked for the unlikely romances, or the Mary Sues, or the whump, or the hurt/comfort, or the rape fantasies, or god forbid, even mpreg, I feel defensive of it. (I am also a fine purveyor of whump and unlikely romances myself.)
I have noticed that classic fandom is more male, because you have all the old school fanboys that were watching when Tom Baker was on the air, and didn't need a nice female audience avatar like Rose to ease their way in. (Thank you, Rose! :D) So I can understand why dudes would be more comfortable there, and I'm not judging. It's actually a bit of a surprise to me, as I go further into classic fandom, how in some places I'm pretty much the only girl, and I wonder how they see me and my revisionist headcanon and my profound love for Doctor/Master in any form.
I certainly look forward to more Doctor Who! Sarah Jaaane. ;____; I watched all of The Sarah Jane Adventures, so I am quite attached to her character despite not seeing her original run yet. This is gonna break my heart even more.
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Date: 2011-06-16 10:37 pm (UTC)I shipped them both with the Doctor, though.I do get what you mean about fandom being, well, fangirly, and I know that 90% of it is crap, as per Sturgeon's Law, but I kind of....object to that, nonetheless, because women's writing is often ghettoized and dismissed for being women's writing. Even when the writing of some women is legitimized, it's because she beat men at their own game, not because her own game was in any way legitimate. What I love so much about fandom is that it is pretty much female-dominated, and is a female culture. Even when I shake my head at how utterly shitty a lot of fanfiction is, I kind of love it, too, because it's shitty in a very feminine way, and it isn't being stigmatized for that, it's being celebrated, the way we've celebrated masculine shite for god knows how long.
So when I see women's fiction, fanfiction, being dismissed or mocked for the unlikely romances, or the Mary Sues, or the whump, or the hurt/comfort, or the rape fantasies, or god forbid, even mpreg, I feel defensive of it. (I am also a fine purveyor of whump and unlikely romances myself.)
I have noticed that classic fandom is more male, because you have all the old school fanboys that were watching when Tom Baker was on the air, and didn't need a nice female audience avatar like Rose to ease their way in. (Thank you, Rose! :D) So I can understand why dudes would be more comfortable there, and I'm not judging. It's actually a bit of a surprise to me, as I go further into classic fandom, how in some places I'm pretty much the only girl, and I wonder how they see me and my revisionist headcanon and my profound love for Doctor/Master in any form.
I certainly look forward to more Doctor Who! Sarah Jaaane. ;____; I watched all of The Sarah Jane Adventures, so I am quite attached to her character despite not seeing her original run yet. This is gonna break my heart even more.